Yesterday I made the following statement that is just riling people the heck up like crazy:
“The Spirit of Amalek is inbred in ALL Gentiles at birth.”
Look man, it should be as obvious as the blue sky on a bright sunny day that from birth Jews (or Hebrews) are of a quite different nature spiritually than unredeemed Gentiles.
There’s a HUUUUUUUUGE difference between the spiritual status of a Gentile and a Jew from birth.
To put it simply, a Jew is NOT born with the Spirit of Amalek resident in their soul like a Gentile is.
Why?
Because a Jewish person is born as a member of God’s chosen people.
They have already been elected and set apart from birth because of their redemption from Pharaoh in Egypt many centuries ago.
That’s obviously not the case for Gentiles who are born with a nature that is hostile to God.
Now I think I know what you’re thinking.
“But don’t both Jews and Gentiles have to be saved from their ‘sin natures’ that are present at birth?”
The answer to that question is of course, yes.
The Apostle Paul said…
“for all have sinned and
fall short of the glory of God…”
-Romans 3:23
Yes, even Hebrews have a sinful nature that needs to be redeemed.
Why do you think the “Old” Testament Hebrew saints were NOT allowed to enter into heaven before Yeshua’s redemptive sacrifice?
Why did they have to be kept captive in a safe haven known as Abraham’s bosom before they were freed?
It’s because they need to be saved from their sins like all people do.
The New Testament reinforces this fact plainly.
“She will give birth to a son,
and you are to give
him the name YESHUA,
because he will save
his people from their sins.”
-Matthew 1:21
The “his people” in the above verse is referring to Israel.
It’s ONLY referring to the Hebrew people as also reinforced by this verse.
“Yeshua answered,
‘I was sent only to
the lost sheep of Israel.'”
-Matthew 15:24
But we’re talking apples and oranges here.
Because I ain’t talking about all of mankind’s desperate need for a savior because of their sinful natures.
I’m talking about the spiritual difference in status between a Jew and a Gentile from birth.
When I say “spiritual status”, I’m referring specifically to how God PERCEIVES and views a Jewish newborn baby from a Gentile baby at birth.
There is a qualitative difference homie.
Of course, God will instantly recognize the Jewish newborn as a member of His elected and chosen people.
Obviously, I ain’t talking about gentile converts to Judaism here…
Unless you hold to the Chabad position that gentiles who eventually convert to Judaism already possess Hebrew souls from birth…
But that’s a can of worms I don’t wanna open up right now.
Anyway, here’s the bottom line.
Ever since the establishment of the New Covenant via the Messiah’s resurrection from the dead, there is only ONE WAY for all humans, whether Hebrew or otherwise, to be saved…
And that is to trust in the God of Israel by trusting in His son, the ONLY mediator between Himself and all of mankind that has been infected with a sinful nature from birth.
It is this evil spiritual remnant that is common to all human beings everywhere irrespective of race or national origin.
I should add that the heart of Torah observance is a wholehearted expectation of the coming deliverance of the Messiah.
If you discard the Torah, you discard the Messiah.
You can’t have one without the other because this belief is central to Judaism.
Unless we’re dealing with some weird radical and liberal form of reformist Judaism.
Alrighty, that does it for today.
See you all next time.
CONNECTING THIS TEACHING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT
“For if you believed Moses,
you would believe me;
for he wrote of me.
But if you do not
believe his writings,
how will you
believe my words?”
-John 5:46-47
“Therefore, remember that formerly
you who are Gentiles by birth and
called ‘uncircumcised’ by those who
call themselves ‘the circumcision’
(which is done in the body by human hands)—
remember that at that time you
were separate from Messiah,
excluded from citizenship in Israel
and foreigners to the covenants
of the promise, without hope and
without God in the world.
But now in Messiah Yeshua you
who once were far away have been
brought near by the blood of Messiah.”
Ephesians 2:11-13
“…the people of Israel.
Theirs is the adoption to sonship;
theirs the divine glory, the covenants,
the receiving of the law,
the temple worship and the promises.
Theirs are the patriarchs,
and from them is traced the human
ancestry of the Messiah,
who is God over all,
forever praised! Amen.”
-Romans 9:4-5
Romans 5:13. WHEN were the Gentiles under the law of Moses? Romans 4:15, too.
All who drowned in the flood, Peter discusses in his epistle.
Oh, by the way, ACTS 17:30, as well.
All of them were Gentiles. They all went to the same abode as Abraham did!
Even Abraham was a Gentile when he was CHOSEN.
In Luke 16, a JEWISH Rich Man didn’t quite make it to the NICE PLACE…did he? LOL.
You sure don’t know very much. Making things up as you go along, huh?
But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. (Romans 14:10)
Friend, you ruined your point of trying to “reason” with Rich when you passed judgement on him for how much knowledge you said doesn’t have…not “very much.” You Bible thumb, you get Bible thumped. Lemme ask you this, don’t we ALL “see in a mirror dimly,” so even IF Rich isn’t seeing things too well, how much better can you see them? Don’t you see in the SAME “mirror dimly”? I’d repent of that if I were you.
Lol.
Proverbs 28:23
He that rebuketh a man afterwards shall find more favour than he that flattereth with the tongue
Ed,
Sorry to say the remark “ You sure don’t know very much. Making things up as you go along, huh?” is not helpful at all.
Gim,
Niether is:
“The Spirit of Amalek is inbred in ALL Gentiles at birth.”, without backing it up with scripture.
If you want to know the difference between Jew and Gentile in this issue, the following is the real distinction:
Deuteronomy 29:4
Yet the Lord hath not given you an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this day.
That is repeated in Romans 11:8
(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
And how do they get out of this slumber?
1. When they die and meet Jesus, or…
2. John 9:39-41, then they become known as the REMNANT.
John 9:39-41
39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
Now…CONTRAST all of that for the Gentiles:
Romans 15:21
But as it is written, To whom he was not spoken of, they shall see: and they that have not heard shall understand.
The Jews are BLIND, due to NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, and since it was God who blinded them in the first place, then ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED.
Reason? Because the Jews are telling a story about God, showing God’s power (Romans 9), and God is USING them. And just like Joseph and his brothers, he forgives all of them.
So where is this SPIRIT OF Amalek? The Jews or no DIFFERENT than Gentiles, except that they are BLIND. The Jews who CLAIM TO SEE, or WALK AWAY from the Law of Moses (Luke 16), or do all of the things that states, “CUT OFF FROM THEIR PEOPLE”…those Jews got issues, and it ain’t the July Issue, either. But the blind ones…one day God will unblind them and they get MERCY.
Now that’s Bible study. Amalek? Really? Where is the scripture backup, HOMIE?
Gem,
If we were to put on our spiritual glasses, as the bible suggests in the following:
Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Romans 8:6
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Then we see things such as:
The Pharaoh = Satan
Moses = Jesus
Egypt = BONDAGE TO SIN
Children of Israel = Christians
40 years wandering the desert = Christian walk
Crossing the Jordan = Christian natural death
Promised Land = Heaven
In the story of Abraham
Abraham = God
Promised Seed (singular) Isaac = Jesus
Children of Isaac is Jacob = Children of Jesus = YOU
Promised Land = Eternal Life in Heaven
Noah’s Ark = Rapture
Jonah’s 3 Days and 3 Nights = Jesus crucified
Joseph and his brothers is the relationship of Jesus and the Jews
And so on, and so on, and so on.
God is telling a story about himself through the Jews.
There is only ONE God. Jesus is God. Satan wants to be God.
The story about Amalek is about Satan and his angels, not Gentiles. The Promised Land of Canaan is a carnal depiction of Heaven. And there is a battle going on in the spiritual realm.
And this is really what Romans 9 is all about, where God USES people to tell the story.
Amalek was USED, just like the Pharaoh was used. And in the end, Amalek gets MERCY just due to the fact that God USED him to tell a spiritual story about God, Satan, and Heaven.
Amalek does not represent Gentiles at all, even though SOME Gentiles are fighting against Israel…the Nation of, and those who live there, the Jews.
Ed,
Re your statement “Jesus is God”, please clarify if it is intended to mean that:
1) Jesus (YaHshua) is the Almighty GOD (EL-SHADDAI), the MOST HIGH GOD (EL-ELYON); Whose Name is ADONAI-YHWH alone (echad);
OR
2) Jesus (YaHshua) is that only-begotten Son, who was anointed (mashiach) and sent (shalach) by his ABBA-ADONAI-YHWH to be the Lamb of ELOHIM and the future Lion of YaHudah?
Shalom
All of the above. Just so you know about me, I’m not into all of the YAHOO stuff. I just call God, JESUS. You can call him anything you want. But…if you want to know WHY I say all of the above…
Revelation 1:8-18 CLEARLY shows Jesus as THE ALMIGHTY, THE FIRST AND LAST.
NEXT…When we become a Christian, there is ONE Spirit that we get as a result. It’s called…the HOLY SPIRIT.
We don’t get THREE spirits, just one.
That one spirit is known as…
1. TEMPLE OF GOD
1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
2 TEMPLE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
1 Corinthians 6:19-20
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you
3. JESUS IN YOU
2 Corinthians 13:5
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
ONE SPIRIT
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Galatians 4:6
And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Romans 8:11
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
What spirit is that?
Revelation 1:8-18, Jesus, the FIRST AND LAST, who was dead, but now alive forevermore, IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD.
First and Last
Isaiah 44:6
Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Isaiah 48:12
Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.
Revelation 1:11
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:
Revelation 1:17
And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Revelation 2:8
And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
Revelation 22:13
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Ed Chapman
Ed Chapman
You may wish to review all your above verses (and any others) within this Book of The Covenant – An Integrated Translation & Transliteration of the Hebraic Scriptures”:
https://www.btc2023.net/1-prologue
Shalom
Gim,
Sorry, but I’m not interested. I’ll stick to calling God, Jesus. What you bring to the table is the exact same thing that the Muslims bring, in that you have to learn the Koran in Arabic, and pray to Allah in Arabic, regardless of your native tongue.
As if God isn’t smart enough to know English? Spanish people pronounce Jesus as HEYZUES. Greek, ouisus. In America, G-ZUZ.
I know that you guys are BIG on the Y stuff, and the gutteral sounds, but…look here…
You made a huge point in the word, “mashiach”
But the Bible states:
John 1:41
He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ.
Your website doesn’t like the word “Christ” very much. But it is WRITTEN just like that in John 1:41.
And, the Sign above Jesus at the cross was written in THREE languages, which said:
Matthew 27:37
And set up over his head his accusation written, This Is Jesus The King Of The Jews.
I think the language INSISTANCE on the Yahoo stuff is being extremely PETTY over NOTHING.
Respects,
Ed Chapman
Thank you for clarifying your position. In summary, would it be fair to conclude that you stand on Trinitarianism as well as Modalism at the same time?
Gim,
I don’t put religious labels on those issues.
All I know is, is that Jesus is God, and beside him, there is no other.
I’m going to give you three words.
1. Spirit
2. Soul
3. Body
Now, I’m going to give you three more words.
1. Father
2. Son
3. Holy Spirit
Now, match those three with the previous three.
Both define ONE PERSON, not three people.
Three people do not play the role of one God.
If I were to label myself, I’d call myself a deist.
Ed Chapman
According to Cambridge Dictionary:
someone who believes in a single god who created the world but does not act to influence events:
The deists of the eighteenth century invented their own “natural” theology.
Like Jefferson, Lincoln could best be described as a Deist.
Fewer examples
As a deist, he believed in some kind of intelligent design but was resistant to organized religion.
He says he does not practice a religion but would call himself a deist.
They were Deists who did not believe the bible was true.
– https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/deist#
I don’t put stock in Cambridge Dictionary. However, Thomas Jefferson was indeed a DEIST.
Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter to Benjamin Rush on 21 April 1803. In that letter he provided a SYLLABUS, of his thoughts on Jesus and the Jews. In that paper, who said the following:
II. Jews. 1. Their system was Deism, that is, the belief of one only god. but their ideas of him, & of his attributes, were degrading & injurious.
So, as you can see, Thomas Jefferson defined his own use of the word. He did not discuss anything about NATURAL. Notice, he’s speaking of the Jews, who would know that God created everything. It’s not wrong for a Christian to attempt to figure out the natural…aka NATURE of things.
Jefferson, Franklin and many others…they came from the Church of England. They believed that the Church of England CORRUPTED Christianity, by making things up. This is why those people had doubts about things, such as Jefferson, regarding miracles, virgin birth, INCLUDING the deity of Jesus, making Jesus the 2ND GOD, and the Holy Spirit the 3RD GOD. In short, he did not believe in the trinity doctrine. But he did believe in the FATHER.
In the letter that accompanied the SYLLABUS, he said:
Dear Sir
In some of the delightful conversations with you, in the evenings of 1798. 99. which1 served as an Anodyne to the afflictions of the crisis through which our country was then labouring, the Christian religion was sometimes our topic: and I then promised you that, one day or other, I would give you my views of it. they are the result of a life of enquiry & reflection, and very different from that Anti-Christian system, imputed to me by those who know nothing of my opinions. to the corruptions of Christianity, I am indeed opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself.
I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished any one to be;
sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human2 excellence, & believing he never claimed any other. at the short3 intervals, since these conversations, when I could justifiably abstract my mind from public affairs,4 this subject has been under my contemplation. but the more I considered it, the more it expanded beyond the measure of either my time or information. in the moment of my late departure from Monticello,5 I recieved from Doctr. Priestly his little treatise of ‘Socrates & Jesus compared.’ this being a section of the general view I had taken of the field, it became a subject of reflection, while on the road, and unoccupied otherwise. the result was, to arrange in my mind a Syllabus, or Outline, of such an Estimate of the comparative merits of Christianity, as I wished to see executed, by some one of more leisure and information for the task than myself. this I now send you, as the only discharge of my promise I can probably ever execute. and, in confiding it to you, I know it will not be exposed to the malignant perversions of those who make6 every word from me a text for new misrepresentations & calumnies. I am moreover averse to the communication of my religious tenets to the public; because it would countenance the presumption of those who have endeavored to draw them before that tribunal, and to seduce public opinion to erect itself into that Inquisition over the rights of 7 conscience, which the laws have so justly proscribed. it behoves every man, who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others;8 or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own. it behoves him too, in his own case, to give no example of concession, betraying the common right of independant opinion, by answering questions of faith, which the laws have left between god & himself. Accept my affectionate salutations.
Th: Jefferson
In our founding, people HATED Theocracies, and the Church of England was a theocracy, as is the Catholics in Rome. So of course they hated Organized Religion. Hence, our FIRST AMENDMENT.
Benjamin Franklin said the following in a Pamphlet called:
Information to Those Who Would Remove to America
“The almost general Mediocrity of Fortune that prevails in America obliging its People to follow some Business for subsistence, those Vices, that arise usually from Idleness, are in a great measure prevented. Industry and constant Employment are great preservatives of the Morals and Virtue of a Nation. Hence bad Examples to Youth are more rare in America, which must be a comfortable Consideration to Parents. To this may be truly added, that serious Religion, under its various Denominations, is not only tolerated, but respected and practised. Atheism is unknown there; Infidelity rare and secret; so that persons may live to a great Age in that Country, without having their Piety shocked by meeting with either an Atheist or an Infidel. And the Divine Being seems to have manifested his Approbation of the mutual Forbearance and Kindness with which the different Sects treat each other, by the remarkable Prosperity with which He has been pleased to favour the whole Country.”
NOTE THE WORD “DENOMINATIONS”? That is discussing the Christian faith, not Buddha! Not Krishna. And please note that there were no atheists.
By the way, Benjamin Franklin also considered himself to be a Christian.
And, regarding the deity of Jesus, he said the following, and I am going to paraphrase, because many Christians have twisted his words in this…
“I don’t think that God will PUNISH those who don’t believe in the deity of Jesus”.
Again, keep in mind that they all believed that the Church of England had corrupted Christianity. They all still believed in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
People have twisted the word “Deist” in order to say that they were not Christians, hence, adding the word NATURAL to the conversation.
I took civics in school. So I am well aware of God in our founding. They used to teach us this in school.
Ed Chapman
I have to side with Ed’s comments here, this article is very far from the truth.
A Yahudi is not a Jew. A Jew is someone that practices ‘Judaism’, which is a form of organized religion! Even Messiah Yahusha rebuked those doing such practices! He was a Yahudi man as he is the ‘Lion from the tribe of Yahudah’ Hallalu-YAHUAH!
There is only 1 way, 1 truth and 1 life my friends. Anything else is false doctrine. That doesnt mean we have to stick to 66 books as books like Enoch and Sirach have 2-3 witnesses in the normal cannon… Judaism is false doctrine, they don’t follow Torah but rather the traditions of men such as the Talmud and Mishnah (Oral Traditions). I have partook Shabbat with them and definitely seen a lot of abominations that we are warned about in scripture.
Abraham was the father of many nations by the way 🙂
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I wouldn’t completely disagree with what you said about the traditions of men and the Talmud and Mishnah.
But what I shared about Amalek being a pattern for Gentiles who are hostile towards Israel, is PURE SCRIPTURAL TRUTH, my friend.
It has nothing to do with tradition or other inclinations rooted in the flesh, and is a truth the gentile church had best wake up to…
Either way, God is sovereign, and His Will will be done…
In fact, it’s happening right now.